Hello Allan, thanks for responding. I agree with your view that science studies phenomenon and seeks underlying mechanisms. But, you seem to believe that only physical science is real science. One of the views of the scientists editing and authoring Irreducible Mind, for example, is that when psychology took the lead from the physical sciences that it left behind and ignored a very large accumulation of science studies relating to consciousness and personality. If science is as you describe, how can ideas and suggestions even from the physical sciences like 26 dimensions in string theory, the multiverse and Max Tegmark’s “everything is math” fit your description? Your dismissal as “simple minded” babble about souls and duality runs right into much of the current thinking about consciousness from the likes of Christof Koch, Roger Penrose, David Chalmers and many more. Open-mindedness is an essential quality if we are to find the answer to the mysteries that continue to confront science. Hopefully, we can continue this conversation.