Thanks B4blue, that helps explain your concern and I can point that many others have taken me apart for my easy dismissal of Harari's suggestion that agriculture may be the biggest crime in history. I have learned through your comment and others that there were some positive aspects to the hunter-gatherer life that evidence suggests were lost by the more readily available sources of food through farming. I pointed out to others that even if this is true, the fact of the brutality of life through violence and warfare which Harari clearly documents (even in a photo of tribal warfare) it can hardly be said that the hunter gatherers had a better, more healthy life. I do believe that this push back against farming is more based on a physicalist worldview than it is on science. I may be wrong and you can perhaps enlighten me more. But, that gets to the whole point of my post, which is that the physicalist account of reality is wrong at its foundation and that acceptance of a wrong belief can lead to other misunderstandings and misinterpretations. Part of that belief system seems to be that we have far more inhabitants on this earth than can be sustained, and since farming is one big reason for that situation, we must reveal its disastrous nature and consequences. OK, but what then? We may very well have too many people, but I for one, will shy away from a suggestion that we destroy farming so as to cause mass starvation. I suspect those who suggest such a thing would likely work to make sure they would not be in the first group to go.