Thanks Marc, while I see signs (maybe just wishful thinking) that the poverty of physicalism is becoming ever more evident there remains the problem of how to incorporate the idea of purpose or design into real science? It seems necessary for it to be eliminated in the search for natural causes. That's why I believe science should be science and do its thing but that philosophy (and theology) are also essential if we are to understand reality (in as much as we can). That's what I appreciated about Schrodinger's comment about Kant's rejection of metaphysics. Yes, eliminate the transcendent from science, but understand that metaphysics is not just a part of knowledge, but the skeleton on which all knowledge is built.